Eternity


Back in the days when I was a boy and having to endure the

dreaded Saturday morning catechism classes at St. Mary's School

in Brockville, Ontario, the nuns attempted to explain eternity as being

the length of time it would take for a bird to remove all the

sand from all the beaches in the world if it came only once every

million years and left with only a single grain of sand in its beak.

So, that being the case, how long is an eternity? Is it a

trillion-trillion years multiplied by a trillion-trillion more?

Mark Bonokoski Toronto Sun. June 11/95

 

Well, QBaal says, if my understanding of mathematics is correct

eternity is all that plus a lot, lot more. In fact, look at it this

way - take the colossal number arrived at above, multiply it by itself

(square it) and subtract the result from infinity. You have not reduced

infinity by the least amount!!!  Yes, infinity is some BIG

amount.

I'm not really trying to upstage Bonokoski or the nuns on eternity.

In fact, their bird of infinity is much more interesting than my math,

and makes infinity more meaningful to children.   However,

both the math and bird indicate we really have to stretch our minds and

the meaning of words to  communicate spiritual realities.

So you can talk about God - the Infinite.  Or describe God creating. Or

God acts in Judgment or God raising Jesus to eternity. Then you must
 

move beyond mere words to use symbols, poetry, parables and myth. There is

no other way. At least no other way invented yet!

Unfortunately, science (empirical description of reality) has been

so successful and such a god in the 20th century that very few

theologians now days have the guts even to mention the word (myth) since

it is widely associated with the archaic, the childish and the unrealistic .

Actually it probably would be wiser to say without myth no truth

communicated in a society/community.  At least no truth worth the name.
 

This is not a calvalier treatment of the myth problem. For it is  a

big problem. Some folks are trying to disassociate myth from its

negative connotations by talking about "sacred story"

or "historicizing" scripture's acts of God. However, in

the final analysis "myth" may be with us to stay  and

eventually we may have to start talking about good myth and

bad myth, relevant myth and spent myth (such as the Virgin Birth of

Jesus). In other words,  modern folk  may find that myth like the idea of

up and down (relative and not absolute) is still basic/central to human

culture.  Just part of a realistic view of life.  Or, just the way God

made the world.
 
 

God on A Stick
 

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 01:40:26 GMT, elo@cyberramp.net (Elroy Willis) wrote:

>Joshua D. Little <"jdlittle"@(no_spam)bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>David Byrden wrote:
>>> Joshua D. Little <"jdlittle"@(no_spam)bigfoot.com> wrote in article
>>> <7rcage$rr0$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
>
>>>         DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
>>> It is dishonest, unchristian, and sinful.
>
>>Okay, WHY don't you believe in God, Christian or otherwise?
>
>Because god myths are stupid, that's why.  Sheesh!!  A man dying
>on a stick is the son of the creator of the universe?  How gullible
>can you be?  Can't you realize a myth when you see one?  What
>led you to realize that Zeus and Santa Claus are just myths and
>stories?  Well, step back and examine your god myth, and you'll
>find that it's no different to anyone who hasn't be coerced or
>brainwashed into believing it.

QBaal  responds:

In common parlance myth means "fairy tale,"  "primitive religious
deception"  or just another "opiate of the masses dosage."  As
in  "the stupid fundamentalist took  the creation myth in Genesis 1
literally."   I personally would not call a fundie "stupid" but many
folk in the modern world certainly would.

>I think you (not  QBaal) need to do some studying up on religious
>mythology in general, and maybe you'll learn the truth about your belief.

>Elroy Willis
  BAAWA (Undercover News Division)
  http://www.cyberramp.net/~elo/news

QBaal adds:

Of course, many books would give myth the credit due despite its
poor press.  Even ancient Greek myths involving Hera, Zeus etc.
are pointers to deep truths re human life, culture and the
subconscious, both individually and collectively.  In the final
analysis, humans in the future, after further study re what myth
is really all about, may conclude that only myth conveys the real
truth about life.  Certainly in terms of Ultimate Reality, our
origins and final destiny.

I love myth for it is inately humble.  As with the real historical
Jesus, myth is an obvious pointer, if not taken literally or as
historical reporting, to God himself.

Also, in my opinion, myth give a future to Christianity.  For myth
can always be modified, discarded  and/or,  in view of the modern
scientific worldview (including psychology, archaeology) updated
so as the experience, for example, of God as creator and sustainer
of the universe, is meaningful to modern folk.

Even if, for the sake of argument, there is no God, myth would
still be one of mankind's highest achievements.  For, despite its
many negatives, it points folk to something outside their own skin,
promotes social cohesion (like the fear of hell in days of yore)
and, most importantly frees folk from the fear of death and the
cruel imprisonment ego imposes on all homo sapiens.  Praise the Lord.